Turkish men kissing
I recently got a new college roomate, and he is from turkey. He has a friend here with him, also from turkey. The other night when his friend left our room, he gave my roomie a big kiss (probably on the cheek, i didn’t see it real well ’cause i was behind them) goodnight. Is this a normal cultural thing, or could my roomate be homosexual? Note that he does have two luis vuitton bags, replica louis vuitton handbags although I know that isn’t really weird for men to be so stylish in most parts of europe.
So, if anyone familliar with turkish, or just general european culture and customs could enlighten me as to what’s going on with my roomie and his friend, I would appreciate it. PLEASE NOTE that i’m not trying to discriminate or anything here, I wouldn’t care if he was gay, but i’d just like to know.
There is an interesting thread on a Turkish forum here that will probably help you. Kissing a friend on the cheek is a common way of greeting or saying goodbye to a good friend in Turkey, as in many countries. I wouldn’t get too hung up on the Louis Vuitton bags, either.
posted by greycap at 12:20 AM on September 1, 2007
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Honestly, I can never get the ritual right. I high quality designer replica handbags always seem to slip either too much tounge, or too little.
joke, its a joke
posted by Good Brain at 12:34 AM on September 1, 2007
hah, thanks for the clarification good to know!
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posted by kraigory at 12:51 AM on September 1, 2007
Geographically, Turkey is both in Europe and Asia. It became an EU candidate country in 1999.
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A long discussion in Turkey high quality replica handbags china about the European/Arab thing led to the following : “They’re not as European as they think they are” “Yeah, but they’re more European than you think they are”.
It’s perfectly normal in Turkey to see people kissing hello/goodbye fake designer bags , or even men holding hands. replica louis vuitton bags Why not ask your roommate about the custom and whether there’s anything else noticably different? He obviously knows it’s not the done thing in uptight christian lands otherwise he’d be kissing you. Could lead to an replica louis vuitton interesting conversation, you could both learn stuff.
posted by handee at 3:37 AM on September 1, 2007
Having lived in turkey and living in a turkish part of Berlin now I can say it’s custom to kiss on both cheeks for a greeting, but as far as I can say, not as a goodbye or good night kiss. I could be wrong though.
It’s also always two kisses, one left one right, while usually shaking hands. One big good night smooch seems different from the custom.
posted by kolophon at 4:25 AM on September 1, 2007
In southern European cultures, kisses on both cheeks are common between women or between a woman and a man, and among Greeks at least it is also common between men who are close friends or haven’t seen each other for a while. In Turkish and Arab circles on the other hand the gesture only exists between men. I’ve definitely seen young Turkish and high quality designer replica handbags wholesale Arabic rowdies, who I guarantee to be homophobic, kissing each other goodbye on both cheeks. Seeing it as a “goodnight kiss” makes it sound different, but it was probably seen by them as a goodbye cheap louis vuitton bags from china uk kiss. Also in my experience all of these Mediterranean cultures, whether Christian Jewish or Muslim, are more touchy, for example the men will stand next to you with their arm around your shoulders when talking to you for no apparent reason; at least my Greek friends do this. So if the guy grabs your shoulder when he says something to you that doesn’t have to mean anything either except that he has affection for you.
posted by creasy boy at 7:33 AM on September 1, 2007
Eh, I should say that I fake louis bag mean “touchy” like they touch you, not like overly sensitive.
posted by creasy boy at 7:34 AM on September 1, 2007
Another thing that I noticed in Turkey, in particular when I was in Cappadocia, was that some men actually butted rubbed foreheads with eachother when they parted dolabuy , while grabbing eachother’s heads and pulling them into eachother. It seemed really odd to me at first, but then someone did it to me too so I realized it’s a normal form of greeting for some people. It’s definitely a lot more intimate than most acceptable greetings. at first I kinda flinched away at having someone I barely know grabbing my head semi forcefully like that.
So I’d honestly not assume he was gay. Personal space issues aside, to be honest, muslim cultures tend to be very sexually segregated and most of the time men spend time with men, women spend time with women. Even after marriage, most bonding time is with people of your own sex. Often it’s much less scandalous to hold hands in public with someone of your own sex than with someone of the opposite sex. Which, yeah, is very counterintuitive. Depends on the region, but the more conservative the area the more that’s the case.